[PATCH 0/3] support setting lanes

Jerin Jacob jerinjacobk at gmail.com
Fri Mar 22 06:51:14 CET 2024


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 10:56 AM Ajit Khaparde
<ajit.khaparde at broadcom.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 9:39 PM Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 7:58 AM huangdengdui <huangdengdui at huawei.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2024/3/21 16:28, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > 21/03/2024 03:02, huangdengdui:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2024/3/20 20:31, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> > > >>> On 3/18/2024 9:26 PM, Damodharam Ammepalli wrote:
> > > >>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 7:56 AM Thomas Monjalon <thomas at monjalon.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 12/03/2024 08:52, Dengdui Huang:
> > > >>>>>> Some speeds can be achieved with different number of lanes. For example,
> > > >>>>>> 100Gbps can be achieved using two lanes of 50Gbps or four lanes of 25Gbps.
> > > >>>>>> When use different lanes, the port cannot be up.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I'm not sure what you are referring to.
> > > >>>>> I suppose it is not PCI lanes.
> > > >>>>> Please could you link to an explanation of how a port is split in lanes?
> > > >>>>> Which hardware does this?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> This is a snapshot of 100Gb that the latest BCM576xx supports.
> > > >>>> 100Gb (NRZ: 25G per lane, 4 lanes) link speed
> > > >>>> 100Gb (PAM4-56: 50G per lane, 2 lanes) link speed
> > > >>>> 100Gb (PAM4-112: 100G per lane, 1 lane) link speed
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Let the user feed in lanes=< integer value> and the NIC driver decides
> > > >>>> the matching combination speed x lanes that works. In future if a new speed
> > > >>>> is implemented with more than 8 lanes, there wouldn't be a need
> > > >>>> to touch this speed command. Using separate lane command would
> > > >>>> be a better alternative to support already shipped products and only new
> > > >>>> drivers would consider this lanes configuration, if applicable.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As far as I understand, lane is related to the physical layer of the
> > > >>> NIC, there are multiple copies of transmitter, receiver, modulator HW
> > > >>> block and each set called as a 'lane' and multiple lanes work together
> > > >>> to achieve desired speed. (please correct me if this is wrong).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Why not just configuring the speed is not enough? Why user needs to know
> > > >>> the detail and configuration of the lanes?
> > > >>> Will it work if driver/device configure the "speed x lane" internally
> > > >>> for the requested speed?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is there a benefit to force specific lane count for a specific speed
> > > >>> (like power optimization, just a wild guess)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And +1 for auto-negotiation if possible.
> > > >>
> > > >> As you said above,,multiple lanes work together to achieve desired speed.
> > > >> For example, the following solutions can be used to implement 100G:
> > > >> 1、Combines four 25G lanes
> > > >> 2、Combines two 50G lanes
> > > >> 3、A single 100G lane
> > > >>
> > > >> It is assumed that two ports are interconnected and the two ports support
> > > >> the foregoing three solutions. But, we just configured the speed to 100G and
> > > >> one port uses four 25G lanes by default and the other port uses two 50G lanes
> > > >> by default, the port cannot be up. In this case, we need to configure the
> > > >> two ports to use the same solutions (for example, uses two 50G lanes)
> > > >> so that the ports can be up.
> > > >
> > > > Why this config is not OK? How do we know?
> > > > Really I have a very bad feeling about this feature.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Sorry, I don't quite understand your question.
> > > Are you asking why cannot be up when one port uses four 25G lanes and the other port uses two 50G lanes?
> > >
> > > 100GBASE-SR2 (two 50G lanes) and 100GBASE-SR4 (four 25G lanes) have different standards at the physical layer.[1]
> > > So it's not possible to communicate. Configuring lanes can help the driver choose the same standard.
> >
> > Typically, low-level drivers like FW configure this.
> >
> > For example, If FW configures, 100G port as 100GBASE-SR2 then two
> > ethdev(port 0 and port1) will show up.
> > Now, assume if we expose this API and Can end user configure port 1 as
> > 25G lines if so,
> > a) What happens to port0 and it states?
> There should be no impact to port0.
>
> > b) Will port2, port3 will show up after issuing this API(As end user
> > configured 25Gx4 for 100G)? Will application needs to hotplug to get
> > use ports.
> No. The port count does not change. Nor does the number of PCI
> functions seen by the host. Unless designed otherwise.
>
> Changing the lane count does not change anything in physical terms.
> What changes is the modulation or the signaling scheme.
> The number of lanes which can be supported is determined by
> the PHY itself and the cables used and needs to be negotiated appropriately
> with the remote partner - which is just like using forced Ethernet Speed
> instead of auto-negotiated speeds.

OK. It looks like platform independent then. At least cnxk driver, End
user cannot simplify change the line config parameters
while traffic is active also, it looks like other drivers need to have
SerDes training with remote partner while reconfiguring it.

At least on cnxk platform, 25Gx4 on 100G will show as 4 ethdev devices.

Having said that, If other NICs support this feature without
disturbing current port states, I don't have an objection to this API.


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